I've fireformed with the 215 Bergers with good Velocity and es. In Stock Item #: BG37407 $3.18 per round Volume Discounts Available . If my Norma shoots the 230s I will be using them over the 215 or 208s The below Berger Twist Rate Stability Calculator allows you to identify what the optimal twist rate and the marginal twist rate is for any given bullet given your shooting conditions. According to JBM at standard atmospheric conditions w/ 10 MPH wind, 200.20x @3000 FPS vs 215H @ 2890, the 200 would be 1.1 MOA flatter but have 0.3 MOA more wind drift at 1000 yards. The 215 berger has a BC of .691; the 208 eld-m is .690. I have never had a barrel this picky. Fireformed brass not as good. I used one seating depth for all the loads, just a few thou off the lands for a COAL of just under 4". Good heavy bullet powder . I tried H1000, Retumbo and RL26. Berger 30 Caliber .308 Diameter 230 Grain Match Hybrid OTM Tactical 100 Count. I'd choose the 215 if I could but hope the 200 works well. The Berger had a much more consistent weight, not varying more than .2 grains above or below 215. The 230’s have a reputation of holding together a little longer and going a little deeper, but ive seen it go either way. The 30 Caliber 230gr Hybrid bullet utilizes Berger’s industry-leading hybrid ogive, which blends tangent and secant designs to optimize efficiency, reduce wind-drift, and minimize sensitivity to seating depth. How have people found these on game at speeds of. 215 Berger for me. The feedback from other shooters is that 215 Hybrids are ~1.575". If this is your first visit, be sure to Berger lists the 230 Hybrid length as 1.64". Taking measurements from both bullets the base to O-give was very consistent, but the Berger was slightly better than the ELD-X, .001 variance vs .0025. barefooter56. NOT the OTM’s. $158.99. link above. Mag. If you intend on trying to sell me your 230’s at a ridiculous price, don’t bother with the offer. These are the only components I don’t have. Berger 375 (.375) 407gr Extreme Long Range Match Solid Bullets 50 per box . Unless i have a special need that warrants a higher SD, or more energy etc etc. I've shot six lots of these bullets and none have been that short. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. ... Berger Match Grade Hybrid Target 30 Caliber 215 Gr 250/Bx Berger Hybrid bullets are designed to achieve extreme accuracy for competitive and recreational target shooters. Your IP: 103.120.177.86 I’m leaning toward the 215 Berger Hybrid or the 212 ELD-X. I finally found a load with the 230 Berger Hybrid and Retumbo. I thought I would be able to round some up in the mean time, but I just simply cannot. But other guys love them. Jan 28, 2018 #15 Back when I still had my win mag, I used retumbo primarily. This was a 'jug' test of the 215 grain Berger Hybrid Bullet. Most lots are ~1.665. All done with H-1000. • One was a 168 Berger, the other a 180 ELD M. The deer shot with the Berger dropped. This tool allows you to figure out which bullets will stabilize out of your rifle given your rifle’s twist rate. Let's see what happens! The berger hit 3 time in a row within 4 ft. Im going to test the 208 eld-m this Sunday same distance same rifle same load. Berger will be releasing these at SHOT and will be shipping to dealers Feb 1 2020 EDIT 11/14/19 to add measurements. The IMR8133 might work really good with that 230. Oct 30, 2020 #11 T. tdhanses Senior Member. Thread starter lyle_destroys; Start date Nov 25, 2020; Nov 25, 2020 #1 lyle_destroys Senior Member. Looking for the 230 Target Hyrbrids. The G7 BC for the new 220 Grain is significantly higher than our existing 30 cal 215 Grain Hybrid Target, and even exceeds our 30 cal 230 Grain Hybrid Target. They range from 1.66-1.69". May 7, 2015 #2 BigMac, Depends on your rifle. Would consider trading some 215’s for your 230’s. Joined Sep 26, 2018 Messages 2,971. treillw said: Yeah. My .280" freebore allows roughly .030" jump before contacting the donut. The 230 Grain weight allows for a higher velocity load at the cost of BC when compared to our 215 … The 220 Grain LRHT™ is designed around magnum cartridges like the 300 PRC, 300 Norma Magnum, and 300 Remington Ultra Magnum for shooting 1000 yards and beyond. May 7, 2015 #1 Liked to be jammed or seated into rifling or jumped?? After 14-15 kills with the ELD in two years I’m done using them. By PerazziSC3 in forum Projectile and Factory Ammo Exchange, By burtonator in forum Projectile and Factory Ammo Exchange, By Tahr in forum Reloading and Ballistics, Berger 230 and 300 OTM Hybrid terminal results - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine, 215 Hybrid Short Range Terminal Performance - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine, Review-Berger 230 gr Target Terminal Performance - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine, http://www.youtube.com/user/Terminat...?feature=guide. The deer shot with the ELD ran 70 yards and I never saw a drop of blood. If im looking at bullets that are this close in ballistics i typically use whichever one has the lower form factor. check out the FAQ by clicking the at milk jugs filled with water at 450 yards. I've done some primer comparison as well. Berger 215 Hybrid or 210 VLD freedom pills for 300 Win Mag. Silver $$ Contributor. Congratulations to Bob Ryan on conquering the 1500 yard Milk Jug Challenge with his 300 Win Mag on the first shot of his 2nd attempt. 215 Hybrid vs 230 SMK. Hybrid?? If someone is running similar please let me know what you are getting. These are taken with 30 cal Hornady comparators. I dont have a chrono so I don't know how fast it is. If anyone would be willing to sell me some, I … The 215/ 230 Berger and the Warner Tool bullets have breathed new life into the 300 WinMag if you have a rifle that can shoot them. However, when it comes to the .696 G1 on the 215'Hybrid target Berger, I've taken it out to 1400 yards with the numbers matching. 85 grs with the 230's gave 2900 fps and 90 grs with the 215's was 3050, I could have gone up a little with the 230 gr bullet but was satisfied with the speed and accuracy it had at 2900 fps. Nov 12, 2015 #1 I'm asking specifically about 30 cal Hornady 208 amax and Berger 210 vld or Berger 200 Hybrids but any experience of side to side comparison is welcome. To keep the test about all out performance, the 215 Berger pressured out with H1000 around 3050 fps. I just ordered some 215's and need to pick up some 210's to work up some loads for my 300 win mag for the upcoming season. Thread starter SheepShapeAK; Start date Mar 16, 2018; Mar 16, 2018 #1 SheepShapeAK Junior Member. The 230 grain Hybrid has a higher BC: 0.368 vs. 0.354 for the 215. • Last edited: Jan 31, 2018. cmillard. Hybrids say not suitable for hunting right on the box. So far in order of my results, 225 Hornady, 200 grain Sierras, 215 Bergers, and last, 230 A-tips. 230 Target: OAL = 1.665" Boat tail base to O give = .883" O Give to tip = .782" Bearing surface with two comparators = .672" Berger Hybrid Target ... 30-378 Weatherby 230 Berger 30” 3153 fps. I will use a 230 Berger Target for comparison. The 230 is a lil longer 215. Thread starter calgarycanada; Start date Nov 12, 2015; calgarycanada. Berger vs Hornady, difference in consistency?? My dad and wife put as close to identical shots on deer as you can get. $46.99. It was fired out of a custom .300 Win. Fed 215 mag, H1000 and 215s has been very accurate in every rifle I have tried. You’re looking at the heavier 30 caliber bullets such as the 215 grain hybrid and the 230 grain hybrid. Performance & security by Cloudflare, Please complete the security check to access. OPPs , as I am a cheap Bast$#d , I will use Amax , as they are as cheap as chips , compared to the Gold plated Bergers . The 230 otm Berger also matches up using the .719 G1 Reactions: TnDoc If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices. Review-Berger 230 gr Target Terminal Performance - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine The 230s work well at just over 3000 fps. The Berger Bullets Ballistics Calculator uses BCs (G1 or G7) to calculate trajectory and account for any external factors that may effect bullet performance The best do all bullet for the win mag by far imho. Testing Hornady 225ELD match, 200 grain Sierras, 215 Berger, 230 A tips. I have a custom 300 Norma about built, based on the 215/230 Berger hybrids. Joined Sep 7, 2018 Messages 895. With all the attention Berger gets on the 215, you think they could tweak the thing a little to give it a "hunting jacket and pedigree" and keep close to the same weight and shape. This barrel was a royal pain… I tried several bullets including the 212 ELD, 225 ELD, 208 ELD, and 215 Berger. That’s about an 4% higher BC for the 230 so it should be 4% better in your 300 Norma, right? 215 gr. Joined Mar 9, 2018 Messages 31 Location Wasilla, Alaska. That was my hope going with that 7977. 208 amax get the nod when chasing light thin skinned game like kaweka sika. Please enable Cookies and reload the page. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. Optimal bullet seating in a case has the base of the bullet right at the neck shoulder junction, both the 215 and the 230 have a .215 boat tail and the same nose, the 215 has a bearing surface of .450 while the 230 is .520, difference of .070, not too much to fret about but if you're setting up a reamer you may want to take that into consideration.
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